kyra_ojosverdes: (liberty)
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What. The. Fuck.

The Pentagon has decided to omit from new detainee policies a key tenet of the Geneva Convention that bans "humiliating and degrading treatment," according to military officials, a step that would mark a potentially permanent shift away from strict adherence to international human rights standards.

Date: 2006-06-06 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nephthys510.livejournal.com
Nay. Baby steps.

Vote the Republicans out. Get a Democratic House and Senate and start a real investigation.

Date: 2006-06-06 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnpalmer.livejournal.com
A real investigation is what we need. We need to know what orders were given to whom, and where it led to.

I have to confess, I think that will inexorably lead to impeachment, unless there's a huge tide of "Oh, poor, poor, *POOR* Bush, he didn't personally *order* these things, he was just pushed around by other people who said that they were necessary."

You'd hope that wouldn't happen. He is, after all, "the decider". But you can't be sure these days.

Date: 2006-06-06 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nephthys510.livejournal.com
Take them all down. Rove, Cheney, Rummy, the whole rotten bunch, because even if Bush pulls a "I was just following orders" (god forfend) there was collusion throughout this administration.

Put Lieberman in stocks and let us throw rotten veggies at him for good measure, too.

Date: 2006-06-12 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samvimes.livejournal.com
Been reading The Case for Impeachment. Along with about a dozen other impeachable offenses, they discuss torture in detail. It's definitely been traced to Rumsfeld, and there are broad hints that Cheney has encouraged the practice since days after 9/11. The cover-up, at the very least, can probably be traced to Bush (and when you think cover-up, think Nixon). The Geneva Convention outlaws inhumane treatment of prisoners, segregating them in individual cells, and all forms of torture, including treatment that is "degrading or humiliating"--those have all been broken. The U.S. is a signatory of the Geneva Convention, making it the executive's duty to enforce it. On top of that, there are the Nuremberg Charter and the 1996 War Crimes Act to consider.

If the measure is how well he defends the Constitution and enforces the law--and that's certainly my understanding of the President's job, and that of the executive as a whole--then in my opinion, we have the worst, and most impeachable, President in all of United States history. A full investigation, of the whole gang, is absolutely called for. Thoughts on why this hasn't already happened will probably be going into a separate post...

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