kyra_ojosverdes ([personal profile] kyra_ojosverdes) wrote2006-06-05 09:22 pm
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Isms, Vocabulary

[over dinner]

  • James (age 12): "Mom, whenever we go shopping for like one specific thing, you go into 'shopping mode' and want to look at everything!"1
  • Mark (age 10): "Yeah, women are like that."
  • Me: "Mark, that's sexist."
  • Mark: *thinks for a bit* "Yeah, I go into shopping mode too sometimes and want to look at everything. Especially if we're in the video games section!"
  • Me: "Lots of people do, and it doesn't have much to do with gender."
  • James: "Is there such a thing as ageist?"
  • Me: "Yes."
  • James: "Or sizeist?"
  • Me: "Yes. There are lots of ways people identify groups which are like them and say that their group is better than other groups. Society gives us certain messages like thin people are better than fat people, that attractive people are better than unattractive people, that young people are much more attractive than older people but only older people can be trusted and that elderly people aren't valuable at all, that people with lighter skin are better than people with darker skin..."
  • James & Mark: *think a bit*
  • James: *smirks* "You could save time and just say that you are better than everyone else. That way you don't have to decide who's in your group and who isn't."
  • Mark: "What's that called? Individualist?"
  • Me: "Narcissist, actually."
  • James & Mark: *rolling eyes as I am obviously pulling their legs* "Nuh-UH!!"
(I explained that yes, narcissist is a word, and told them the story of Narcissus.)


1. Actually, I always want to look at everything. When I'm in a store, that means browsing the merchandise. Anywhere else, it means constantly asking myself "am I being rude by too closely examining my surroundings?" Say, if my surroundings happen to be someone's home or place of business.

[identity profile] yndy.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
"You could save time and just say that you are better than everyone else. That way you don't have to decide who's in your group and who isn't."

Nah... narcissism means you are in love with yourself... those of us who think we're better than everyone else call ourselves elitists ;)

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
True. :-)

I was thinking of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The story of Narcissus is indeed about being in love with himself.

Doesn't elitist imply that you belong to a group of also better-than-everyone-elses, as opposed to being the singular best person ever?

[identity profile] vocalista001.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Great conversation, by the way.

*chuckle*

I enjoy hearing the exchanges you have with the kids.

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I should find and link the various sex-ed conversations I've posted...


... yeah, no men living in this house, I'm on my own with that.

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Oh... while we were in the store I wandered over to the lingerie section because I need another work bra. The boys were intently studying the carpet. (James did so silently, Mark offered running commentary on omg there's women's underwear here, don't look up James, how embarassing to be surrounded by omg women's underwear...)

I grabbed a bra and said "James, the style I'm looking for isn't like this, with the closure in back. I want the type with the closure in front, and the straps making a T or Y in back. It's called a T-back or racing back style." Bingo: embarassment gone, he's got a job to do! Mark got into the search as well, and I found my bra a whole lot faster.

I have no illusions that this method will work in two years.


(I'm waiting for the day when Mark realizes what the mysterious object in my top drawer is... his current theory is that it might be related to blood pressure. My answer is always "It's rude to look through people's drawers and cabinets, stop invading my privacy." Moderately work-safe link (no image) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EHIX6W/qid=1149568619/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/102-0622128-2479338?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=hpc&v=glance&n=3760901) ... Moderately NSFW link (image is fine, neighboring links are... obvious) (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6664133)
andreas_schaefer: (Muhaha)

on looking at the worksafe link

[personal profile] andreas_schaefer 2006-06-06 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
I saw


its the thrills for dad that tickles me I have the suspicion this is not the context Amazons ad texters were thinking of.

[identity profile] roguespirit.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
That probably depends on just how elitist you are.

[identity profile] yndy.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
well, it doesn't get any more elite than a party of one! :)

But I was trying to be witty (and failing apparently... note to self: I'm not an elite comic!)

But perhaps Megalomaniac?

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Megalomaniac for the win!

[identity profile] wcg.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
those of us who think we're better than everyone else call ourselves elitists

Or Marines.

[identity profile] roguespirit.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if it's rude to carefully examine your surroundings when in someone else's home or business. I hope it isn't, because I do it, too. Especially the books. And the art.

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, the books. Yes. A voice in my head reminds me that I'm supposed to be chatting up the people, not drooling over examining the contents of the bookcase(s). That voice is quickly shushed if the people don't happen to be looking at me when I glance up. They're busy, surely, and wouldn't want me to interrupt whatever they're doing. I'd better just keep quietly looking at the books. Yes, that would be the polite thing to do.

Same with art. That tiny brushstroke in the lower left corner is really important.

[identity profile] roguespirit.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
And don't you find that, in someone's home, the books one has says a lot about the person? It makes for interesting browsing.

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, definitely.

[identity profile] weedblossom.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, one of the things that I love most about you is that you're not afraid to teach your kids ANYTHING. They are going to grow up to be one of those scary, self-actualized people who make it their life's purpose to push everybody around them out of their comfort zones, and OH NO that's such a horrible thing! ;)

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
A guy came to the door with some petitions the other night... one to say state legislators can't become lobbyists for two years after leaving office and the other to tell police we'd sure like it if they de-emphasized finding small amounts of marijuana in someone's possession and directed that energy toward stuff like meth.

Mark was right there drilling the guy with questions. After a "can I go there" glance at me, the young man explained his stance on drug laws and lobbying. Mark looked at me for my input on drug laws, and I said that while I think using illegal drugs is a bad idea, some drugs are much more dangerous, to the person using them and to others around that person, than other drugs.

Mark took this in, nodded, and told the guy "What I'm against are the executions. I think it's wrong for us to kill people and say we're allowed to do that but it's wrong for other people to kill." The guy blinked for a second then agreed that's precisely his take on the issue. They chatted about the death penalty issue for a bit, then Mark got bored and was ready to go back inside. The guy gave me a big thumbs-up on my socially-aware kid.

[identity profile] samvimes.livejournal.com 2006-06-12 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
You are such the awesomest parent EVAR.

[identity profile] kyra-ojosverdes.livejournal.com 2006-06-12 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
You're so biased.

Did you catch what Mark said in the Big Brothers, Big Sisters interview?

:-*

[identity profile] redminx.livejournal.com 2006-06-06 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You are the bestest mommy in the world. *hugs* Have to say I always love hearing about you and your younglings.